tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9091218950079982154.post6098118060783575092..comments2024-03-07T15:19:55.343+01:00Comments on Copy, Shake, and Paste: But that's just how we do it!Debora Weber-Wulffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01602911135725939409noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9091218950079982154.post-69604977638166950012010-08-23T16:52:25.808+02:002010-08-23T16:52:25.808+02:00I have made exactly the same experiences as the ch...I have made exactly the same experiences as the chemist (I am originally a physicist but now more in the field of chemistry). The frustrating thing is that almost every postdoc/PhD-student who is doing the 'actual' work is annoyed if people are (almost randomly) added on their papers but since the PI is in a position of power, no one will complain.<br />With one of my own papers I once considered writing directly to the journal editor, 'innocently' asking about the journal policy on honorary authorship (by mentionning my case) but didn't do it in the end because this would certainly have backfired.<br />In fact I also blame the journal editors who, even though each journal has nice 'ethical guidelines' do not enforce those but very often knowingly accept honorary authorship or - even worse (and I have myself experienced this several times) - make decisions which are biased by the names on the author list!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9091218950079982154.post-22270880022769595562010-08-22T12:32:40.835+02:002010-08-22T12:32:40.835+02:00a) We should not accept honorary authorship.
b) AN...a) We should not accept honorary authorship.<br />b) ANY scientist accepting - and probably many of those giving - honorary authorship is going to claim that this is the way it is done in their field, country or whatever. They are hardly going to say that they knowingly continue to do something they and their peers consider to be unprofessional.Schlupphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16399256701731431557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9091218950079982154.post-57000219407773341492010-08-17T20:21:22.158+02:002010-08-17T20:21:22.158+02:00One of the problems I address in my talk is a defi...One of the problems I address in my talk is a definition of plagiarism - it is very different, very fuzzy. It is rather similar to the definition of when a man is bald: It is clear when he is bald, and clear when he is not, but in between we are not so sure. And many things that are considered to be scientific misconduct are called plagiarism. I try and define the different concepts.<br /><br />I have never heard of students being punished for not plagiarizing and would look forward to having a reference to such a thing. <br /><br />I know that plagiarism is rampant in Austria - education is our only hope, as software can't help much.Debora Weber-Wulffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602911135725939409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9091218950079982154.post-32103723707636744522010-08-17T12:54:04.824+02:002010-08-17T12:54:04.824+02:00I came across this comment to a column about plagi...I came across this comment to a column about plagiarism by Stanley Fish in the NY Times. Not knowing German, I was wondering in you could comment on the accuracy of this claim. thanks.<br /><br />I wish you could have gone into more detail about something you touch on early in the present column, "What I say is that plagiarism matters a lot in contexts and cultures where there is a name for it". I am currently in Austrian academia and studied in Germany, and have traveled extensively in Russia and other Slavic countries. There is no German word that encapsulates the concept of plagiarism (like many other concepts that are finely dissected in English, German tends to boil it down to something cruder - one dictionary translates it as 'literarischer Diebstahl' or literary theft. As a result, it is very difficult to convey the concept to my students, who regularly and routinely plagiarize. In Russia it is even worse - I have met students who were punished and ostracized for not plagiarizing, since they were expected to regurgitate the canon they learned by heart. Are there any studies on this?cherepahahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17651058223244506465noreply@blogger.com